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Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation: Ojai 1949 - Public Talk 8

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Jiddu Krishnamurti

1 Hours 14 Minutes

Findaway Voices

June 2022

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8. Experiencing the state of immortality without ideation - 7 August 1949.

• There is no mind without idea, thought and verbalization.

• There is no experiencer and the experience; there is only a state of

experiencing.

• One cannot think about immortality. If one can live in the state of only

experiencing then there is a state in which ideation has stopped altogether.

• Is it possible to have direct experience of that which is not thinkable and which

cannot be put into words?

• Q: Is there a way of knowing what is the truth about myself, without illusion or

self-deception?

• Q: Is effort a necessary preliminary to tranquillity?

• Q: I no longer suppress my thoughts and am I shocked by what sometimes

arises. Can I be as bad as that?

• Q: Why is it that certain undesirable conditions in oneself do not vanish as soon as they are observed?

• Q: Is the artist or musician engaged in a futile thing?

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